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   ═ESSAGES FROM THE ╞IDO-╬ET ├OMMODORE ┼CHO ABOUT A ├-64/╚ARD ─RIVE ╨ROJECT.
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╨UBLIC MESSAGE # 9457   ├┬═ ┼├╚╧   ┼NTERED 17:46 ╙ATURDAY   6-╧CT-90
╞ROM: ╔VEY ├OLE ON 1:382/83
  ╘O: ╫HOM ├ARES.
  ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD DRIVE ON THE ├64

╔ HAVE SUCCESSFULLY CONNECTED AN ╔┬═ ╨├ HARD DISK CONTROLLER AND DRIVE TO THE
├64 AND WRITTEN SOME CODE TO INTERFACE WITH THE HARD DRIVE. ╘HERE IS PROBABLY
LITTLE PRACTICAL USE FOR SUCH AN ANIMAL EXCEPT IN SOME CUSTOMISED APPLICATION

╔F THERE IS ANY INTEREST IN THIS LET ME KNOW AND ╔'LL SEE ABOUT MAKING THE
INFORMATION AVAILABLE.  ╘HE TRANSFER RATE IS ABOUT 40KILOBYTES PER SECOND.
╘HE ┬╔╧╙ SUPPORTS ALL THE FUNCTIONS OF THE DRIVES, BUT ╔ HAVE NEVER TRIED TO
INTERFACE IT DIRECTLY TO THE ├64 ╦┼╥╬┴╠ AS A REPLACEMENT DRIVE SINCE THERE
WOULD BE LITTLE SOFTWARE THAT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE.  ═AYBE A CUSTOMISED
BULLETIN BOARD OR OTHER APPLICATION COULD UTILIZE SUCH.

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64/╧, ┬ECAUSE ╬OTHING ─OES ╔T ┬ETTER.
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╨UBLIC MESSAGE # 15917   ├┬═ ┼├╚╧   ┼NTERED 09:24 ╙UNDAY    14-╧CT-90
╞ROM: ╔VEY ├OLE ON 1:382/83
  ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD ─RIVE ╧N ╘HE ├64

╥╚ -* ╙UBJ : ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD DRIVE ON THE ├64
╥╚ -HI IVEY I SAW YOUR MESSAGE HERE ON THE LOCAL BBS IN MY HOME
╥╚ -TOWN AND  ╔'M ╓┼╥┘! INTERESTED IN ┴╬┘! INFO YOU CAN GIVE ME
╥╚ -CONCERNING THE  EXPERIMENTAL ╚─ INTERFACE WITH THE C=64
╥╚ -PLEASE GET BACK TO ME.

╥OD,

╘HERE IS A FILE IN THE ═ISC FILE SECTION ON THE '┴UTO├ONTROL' ┬┬╙ HERE ON THE
BANKS OF ╩INK'S BRANCH JUST SOUTH OF ╠IBERTY ╚ILL, ╘EXAS.  ╘HE FILE IS
├64╚─.┌╔╨ WHICH CONTAINS SOME DOCUMENTATION(SPARSE) AND THE ASSEMBLER SOURCE
FOR THE BASIC I/O ROUTINES.  ╘HE PHONE NUMBER OF THE ┬┬╙ IS 512-778-6246 AND
YOU CAN DOWNLOAD ON YOUR FIRST SIGNON.  ╘HE FILE IS A ╨├ ┌╔╨ FILE, SO WOULD
REQUIRE THAT IT BE DOWNLOADED TO AN ╔┬═ COMPATIBLE ╨├ AND ╒╬┌╔╨ED.  ╔F YOU
DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO AN ╔┬═ COMPATIBLE LET ME KNOW AND WE CAN CREATE ╠╔╬╦┼─
FILE COMPATIBLE WITH THE ├64. ╘HE SOURCE IS FOR THE ├64 ┴SSEMBLER, BUT COULD
BE EASILY CONVERTED TO WHAT EVER ASSEMBLER YOU MIGHT BE USING. ╠ET ME KNOW IF
WE NEED TO CONVERT THE FILE TO ├64 FORMAT.

┬╘╫, THE ┴UTO├ONTROL SUPPORTS SPEEDS FROM 300 TO 14400╚╙╘ AND IS AVAILABLE 24
HOURS, 7 DAYS A WEEK.

╔VEY ├OLE

P.S. ─O YOU HAVE THE ├64 ┴SSEMBLER?  ╔F YOU DO, ╔ HAVE A PACKAGE THAT WILL
MODIFY YOUR COPY TO ALLOW UP TO 14 CHARACTER LABELS, ALLOW IT TO RESIDE UNDER
THE ╥╧═'S (MAKES FOR QUICK LOADING), AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER ENHANCEMENTS TO
THE PACKAGE.

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64/╧, ┬ECAUSE ╬OTHING ─OES ╔T ┬ETTER.
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╨UBLIC MESSAGE # 17767   ├┬═ ┼├╚╧   ┼NTERED 11:45 ╘UESDAY   16-╧CT-90
╞ROM: ╥OD ╚AMMERAND ON 1:283/610
  ╘O: ╔VEY ├OLE
  ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD ─RIVE ╧N ╘HE ├64

* ╙UBJ : ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD ─RIVE ╧N ╘HE ├64
╔├>╥╚ -* ╙UBJ : ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD DRIVE ON THE ├64
╔├>AVAILABLE 24 HOURS, 7 DAYS A WEEK.
╔├>
╔├>╔VEY ├OLE
╔├>
╔├>P.S. ─O YOU HAVE THE ├64 ┴SSEMBLER?  ╔F YOU DO, ╔ HAVE A PACKAGE
╔├>THAT WILL MODIFY YOUR COPY TO ALLOW UP TO 14 CHARACTER LABELS,
╔├>ALLOW IT TO RESIDE UNDER THE ╥╧═'S (MAKES FOR QUICK LOADING), AS
╔├>WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER ENHANCEMENTS TO THE PACKAGE.
╔├>
╔├>--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64/╧, ┬ECAUSE ╬OTHING ─OES ╔T ┬ETTER.
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╔├>(1:382/83)

HI IVEY I GUESS I WILL NEED YOU TO SET IT UP SO I CAN D-LOAD IT TO MY C-64,
ALSO IF YOU CAN IS THERE SOME WAY I CAN CALL YOU TO GET MORE INFO ON THE ╚─
EMULATION? ╠IKE HOW DO ╔ GO ABOUT SETTING IT UP, ( ╔'VE HAD A C=64 FOR SIX
YEARS AND DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE INTERNALS) ┴NYHOW ╔ ALSO HAVE A
C=64 BBS HERE IN DUBUQUE IA CALLED THE BIG CHILL (319-582-3409)
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO SET UP THE EMULATION SO ╔ CAN RUN A ╚─ A LITTLE
MORE CHEAPLY THAN WITH THE CMD OR LT KERNAL LINE ($599-OVER $1000 FOR EITHER
OF THOSE DRIVES)
ANYHOW IF YOU WANT ╔ CAN BE REACHED EITHER HERE OR ON MY BBS OR YOU CAN CALL
ME BETWEEN 10:00AM AND 2:00PM CENTRAL TIME AT 319-583-4622
THANKS AGAIN AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR EXPERIMENT.

       ╥OD ╚AMMERAND

--- ╙UPER┬┬╙ 1.05/╧ (┼VAL. ├OPY)
 * ╧RIGIN: ╘HE ╚OUSE OF ╔╠╠ ├OMPUTE! *╟╒┌┌* [phone]  (1:283/610)



╨UBLIC MESSAGE # 19985   ├┬═ ┼├╚╧   ┼NTERED 23:24 ╫EDNESDAY 17-╧CT-90
╞ROM: ╔VEY ├OLE ON 1:382/83
  ╘O: ╥OD ╚AMMERAND
  ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARD ─RIVE ╧N ╘HE ├64

╥╚ -HI IVEY I GUESS I WILL NEED YOU TO SET IT UP SO I CAN
╥╚ -D-LOAD IT TO MY  C=64, ALSO IF YOU CAN IS THERE SOME WAY I
╥╚ -CAN CALL YOU TO GET MORE  INFO ON THE ╚─ EMULATION? ╠IKE
╥╚ -HOW DO ╔ GO ABOUT SETTING IT UP, (  ╔'VE HAD A C=64 FOR SIX
╥╚ -YEARS AND DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT THE  INTERNALS)
╥╚ -┴NYHOW ╔ ALSO ╚AVE A C=64 BBS HERE IN DUBUQUE IA CALLED
╥╚ -THE BIG CHILL (319-582-3409)
╥╚ -AND I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO SET UP THE EMULATION SO ╔ CAN
╥╚ -RUN A ╚─ A  LITTLE MORE CHEAPLY THAN WITH THE CMD OR LT
╥╚ -KERNAL LINE ($599-OVER  $1000 FOR EITHER OF THOSE DRIVES)
╥╚ -ANYHOW IF YOU WANT ╔ CAN BE REACHED EITHER HERE OR ON MY
╥╚ -BBS OR YOU  CAN CALL ME BETWEEN 10:00AM AND 2:00PM CENTRAL
╥╚ -TIME AT 319-583-4622
╥╚ -THANKS AGAIN AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR EXPERIMENT.
╥╚ -       ╥OD ╚AMMERAND

╥OD,  ╫E WILL GET THE FILE OR FILES AVAILABLE IN ├64 FORMAT BY THIS ╙ATURDAY.
┴S FAR AS RUNNING THE DRIVE ON YOUR ┬┬╙, THE ┬┬╙ PROGRAM WOULD NEED TO BE
CHANGED TO ACCESS THE HARD DRIVE.  ╘HIS MIGHT BE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK IF YOU
DON'T HAVE THE SOURCE CODE.  ╘HE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD TO FIGURE A WAY TO
WRITE A '─╧╙'.  ╘HE PRICE COULD BE RIGHT SINCE A CONTROLLER CARD AND A 10MEG
OR SO HARD DRIVE CAN BE PICKED AT A GOOD PRICE.  ┬╘╫ THE ├64 FILES WILL BE IN
╠┘╬╪ FORMAT IF YOU CAN HANDLE THEM.  ╔ THINK THAT IS THE ONLY TYPE OF
COMPRESSION SOFTWARE WE HAVE FOR THE ├64.  ╘HE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO
HAVE INDIVIDUAL FILES IN NON COMPRESSED FORMAT.  ╔F WE GET TIME, WE WILL PUT
THEM OUT BOTH WAYS.  ╔F YOU WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS THIS OVER THE PHONE, ╔'M
AVAILABLE FROM AROUND 8:00 P.M. TO 11:30 P.M. ├─╘ AT 512-778-6106.  ╞EEL FREE
TO CALL.  ╔'M IN THE PROCESS OF PHASING OUT OF THE ├64 WORLD DUE TO A LACK OF
TIME. ╔T IS A FUN MACHINE TO FOOL AROUND WITH, BUT MY JOB IS IN THE ╨├ WORLD.

╔VEY ├OLE

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64/╧, ┬ECAUSE ╬OTHING ─OES ╔T ┬ETTER.
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═ESSAGE #2262 - ├OMMODORE ┬USINESS ═ACHINES -T
   ─ATE : 31-╧CT-90 21:34
   ╞ROM : ╔VEY ├OLE
     ╘O : ╚ARSHA ╟ODAVARI
╙UBJECT : ╥E: ┼XPERIMENTAL ╚ARDDRIVE ╧N ├-64

╚╟ -├64╚─.┌╔╨  ┘OUR DOCUMENTATION IS DONE VERY WELL. ╔/WE APPRECIATE
╚╟ -THE EFFORT PUT INTO IT. ╠ET ME REMIND YOU THAT YOU FORGOT TO
╚╟ -IDENTIFY THE "┴UTHOR" :-)   ╨EOPLE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THOSE SORT OF
╚╟ -THINGS EVEN IF THEY DONT BOTHER TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
╚╟ -
╚╟ -╘HERE IS CONSIDERABLE INTEREST IN ADDING AN ╔┬═ TYPE ╚─ TO
╚╟ -A ├64, HERE IN ╫INNIPEG. ═┬. ╔ HAVE  A FEW QUESTIONS RE THE
╚╟ -PARTS USED. ┴S WE GET DEEPER INTO THE PROJECT, WE WILL HAVE A FEW
╚╟ -MORE. ╔ HOPE YOU DONT MIND.
╚╟ -
╚╟ -╘HE CONTROLLER USED IS ╫─ 1.....?  ╔S IT AN ═╞═ OR ╥╠╠?
╚╟ -OR DOES IT MATTER? ╨RESUMMABLY IT IS ╚─ ONLY TYPE.
╚╟ -

╘HE AUTHOR IS MYSELF (╔VEY ├OLE).

╘HE CONTROLLER ╔ AM USING IS A ╫ESTERN ─IGITAL ╫╪1 ═╞═ CONTROLLER.  ╘HE
╫ESTERN ─IGITAL ╟┼╬ AND ╫╪2 CARD WILL WORK ALSO.  ╬OTE THAT THERE IS USUALLY
SOME NUMBER LIKE 1007 ETC ASSOCIATED WITH THE ╫╪1 AND ╫╪2 CARDS AND SHOULD
MAKE NO DIFFERENCE.  ╘HE ╫╪1 AND ╟┼╬ CARDS WOULD BE MY PREFERENCE SINCE THEY
ARE SMALLER THAN THE ╫╪2.  ╘HE ╥╠╠ CONTROLLER WILL WORK ALSO, BUT THE SAMPLE
┬╔╧╙ ╔ SUPPLIED ASSUMES ═╞═.  ╘HE DIFFERENCE IS THE NUMBER OF SECTORS ON A
TRACK AND WOULD BE RATHER SIMPLE TO CHANGE.  ╔T'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE ╔ HAVE
LOOKED AT MY CODE, AND IT MAY BE THAT ╔ ALLOWED FOR THIS WHEN ╔ WROTE IT. ╫ILL
CHECK IT.  ┴S FOR A SOURCE OF THE CONTROLLER CARD, ╔ RECENTLY SAW SOME
ADVERTISED IN THE ├OMPUTER ╙HOPPER (╔ THINK) FOR AROUND $25.00 ╒╙.  ╘HAT IS A
GOOD PRICE HERE FOR ONE.  ┘OU MIGHT FIND A USED ONE FOR LESS.  ╔ HAVE ON
OCCASION PICKED A FEW UP FOR 5 OR SO ╒╙ DOLLARS.  ╘HE ONE ╔ AM USING WILL NOT
WORK IN A ╨├ SINCE IT HAS A PROBLEM IN THE ─═┴ AREA WHICH ISN'T USED ON THE
├64 HOOKUP.  ╔ WOULD SUGGEST YOU START WITH A KNOW GOOD CARD THOUGH.

╚╟ -╫HAT MAKE OF HARDISK DID YOU FIND WORKS WELL? ╙EAGATE OR
╚╟ -A ═INISCRIBE? ╘HEY ARE MORE READILY AVAILABLE/AFFORDABLE :-)
╚╟ -─OES THE SIZE MAKE A DIFFERENCE? ┴FTER ALL A ├-64 DOES NOT HAVE
╚╟ -═╙-─╧╙'

╔ HAPPEN TO BE USING A 5═┼╟ ╘ANDON DRIVE (VERY OLD), BUT HAVE USED A 20═┼╟
├═╔.  ┴NY DRIVE THAT WILL INTERFACE WITH THE CONTOLLER CARD SHOULD SUFFICE.
╘HE SIZE IS NOT CRITICAL, BUT IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY THE SAMPLE ┬╔╧╙ IS
LIMITED TO AROUND 30═┼╟ DUE TO THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF SECTORS MUST FIT IN TWO
BYTES WHICH IS 65╦ 512 BYTE SECTORS.  ═OST MODELS OF THE CONTROLLERS WILL TAKE
A DRIVE WITH UP TO 16 HEADS AND 1024 CYLINDERS.  ╘HE ┬╔╧╙ COULD BE CHANGED TO
ACCEPT THE LARGER SIZE DRIVE.  ╔N MY OPINION, A COUPLE OF 30 MEG DRIVES WOULD
BE AMPLE FOR MOST SITUATIONS.  ╙INCE YOU HAVE TO WRITE YOUR OWN '─╧╙' THOUGH
YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF DOING WHAT YOU WANT AND NEED.

╘HERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH QUESTIONS.  ╔'LL ANSWER TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.
╧NE MORE TIME THOUGH, MY DISCLAIMER.  ╘HIS MAY BE MORE OF A NOVELTY THAN
SOMETHING PRACTICAL.

╥EGARDS,
╔VEY

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64/╧, ╔T'S ╘HE ╥┼┴╠ ╘HING.
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═ESSAGE #132 "├┬═" (╥EAD: 3)
─ATE: 05 ╬OV 90 12:38:51
╞ROM: ┴LAN ╦ING
  ╘O: ┴LL
╙UBJ: ╫╚╧ ╫╧╒╠─ ╠╔╦┼ ┴ ╚┴╥─ ─╥╔╓┼??

  ╫ELL GUYS, ╔'VE FINALLY GOTTEN IN TOUCH WITH ╔VEY ├OLE AND GOTTEN THE
INTERFACE AND CODE HE'S WORKED UP FOR HOOKING AN ╔┬═ STYLE ╚ARD ─RIVE AND
CONTROLLER TO A ├64 OR 128.  ╔T ╧╬╠┘ TRANSFERS AT AROUND 40K/SECOND SINCE IT
IS NON-─═┴, BUT HEY, THAT IS ONLY 80 TIMES FASTER THAN A 1541..
╔ THINK ╔'M GONNA HAVE TO SHELVE THE ┴MIGA FOR A WHILE AND WORK ON THIS..

  ╔S ANYBODY INTERESTED??  ╔ THINK ╔ COULD WORK UP THE ╦ERNAL ENOUGH TO MAKE
IT AT LEAST SOMEWHAT 1581 COMPATABLE AND USE IT'S STYLE PARTITIONING
COMMANDS..  ╔ MAY EVEN TRY TO PUT IN AN "AS COMPATABLE AS POSSIBLE" 1541
MODE..
  ┴T ANY RATE, IF ╔ CAN GET IT TO A FAIRLY PROFESSIONAL LEVEL, HOW DOES AROUND
$150 OR SO SOUND?  ╘HAT WOULD BE THE INTERFACE BOARD, CUSTOM KERNAL, AND A
CHEAP ╔┬═ TYPE POWER SUPPLY FOR THE DRIVE.  ┴LL YOU WOULD NEED IS YOUR OWN
HARD DRIVE AND ╫─ ╫╪1 CONTROLLER TO COMPLETE IT, AND A USED 10 MEG CAN BE HAD
FOR AROUND $50ISH..  SO AROUND $200-250 FOR A ├╧═╨╠┼╘┼ 10 MEG ╚─...

  ╟IVE ME SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS...

--- ╘┬┬╙ V2.1/╬═
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═ESSAGE #140 "├┬═" (╥EAD: 3)
─ATE: 06 ╬OV 90 08:27:00
╞ROM: ┴LAN ╦ING
  ╘O: ╟ILLES ┴RCHER
╙UBJ: ╥E: 2 ═┼╟ 1750

  ╚I AGAIN!  ╩UST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON...

  ╔ GOT IN TOUCH WITH ╔VEY ├OLE AND GOT THE ┬IOS HE'D WORKED UP FOR ADDING AN
╔┬═ TYPE CONTROLLER AND HARD DRIVE TO THE 64.  ╔T'S PRETTY SIMPLE REALLY, BUT
╔ HAVE A ╠╧╘ OF PROGRAMMING TO DO TO WRITE A FULL DOS FOR IT.  ┴NYWAY, THE
CONTROLLER IS FAIRLY INTELLIGENT AND COMMUNICATES WITH COMMAND BLOCKS.  ╔T IS
A ╠╧╘ LIKE DOING TRANSFERS TO AND FROM THE 1750.  ╙O HERE'S THE DEAL...

  ╔ HAVE TO USE A LARGER, BANK SWITCHED ╦ERNAL FOR THE ╚─, SO ╔'M GOING TO PUT
╥┼╒ SUPPORT IN IT TOO.  ╔'M GOING TO TRY TO WRITE ╧╬┼ DOS FOR BOTH AND JUST
HAVE SEPERATE COMMUNICATION ROUTINES.  ╘HE HARD DRIVE ┴╬─ THE ╥┼╒ WILL BOTH
ACCESS LIKE A 1581 OR AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE.  ╔F YOU HAVE AN EXPANDED 1750, IT
WILL DETECT AND USE IT AS AN EVEN LARGER DRIVE.  ╧BVIOUSLY, ╔ WILL TRY TO PUT
IN THE 1581 PARTITION COMMAND, BUT ALSO TRY TO DO A MORE OVERALL (╔┼ ONE
LEVEL HIGHER AND ABOVE THE DOS) PARTITION COMMAND THAT CAN MAKE THEM ACT LIKE
MORE THAN ONE PHYSICAL DRIVE.  ╔'M THINKING ABOUT A ╙HADOW MODE, WHERE A 1750
WILL SHADOW WHATEVER IT CAN..  ┴S AN EXAMPLE,  A TWO MEG ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO
SHADOW ╘╫╧ 1581S AND TWO 1541S OR A 1571..  ╧NCE A BLOCK'S BEEN READ, A
SECOND READ WILL COME FROM THE ╥┼╒, AND A WRITE GOES THROUGH TO BOTHE THE
RAM AND DISK, JUST LIKE THE ╟EOS SHADOW MODE, BUT THIS WILL BE IN THE ─╧╙ AND
SHOULD EVEN WORK WITH SOME COMMERCIAL SOFTWARE.  ╞OR INSTANCE, (THIS WOULD
TAKE 20 MINUTES..)  ╠OAD IN ALL EIGHT SIDES OF ╨╧╧╠ ╧╞ ╥┴─╔┴╬├┼, RENUMBER THE
╥┼╒ TO DEVICE 8 AND IT SHOULD GO LIKE LIGHTNING SINCE ╨╧╥ IS INTELLIGENT AND
WON'T ASK YOU TO CHANGE THE DISK IF IT FINDS THE FILES IT NEEDS.  ╨UT IT ON A
HARD DRIVE AND YOU COULD MOVE IT TO THE ╥┼╒ AND BE PLAYING IN A MINUTE OR
LESS WITH 1 MEG OR SO..
  ╔ AM GOING TO TRY TO SELL THE INTERFACE, ROM AND CONTROLLER CARD FOR
$150ISH.  ┴ND THE POWER SUPPLY WITH IT IF ╔ CAN.  ┴LL YOU WOULD NEED IT IS
THE ACTUAL ╚─, AND ╔ WILL LEAVE THAT UP TO THE END USER.  ╘HAT WAY THEY CAN
GET THEIR OWN AS THEY SEE FIT.  ╒SED 20 MEGS CAN BE HAD FOR $100 OR SO, SO
WE'RE TALKING AROUND $250 FOR A HARD DRIVE. ╧R EVEN $200 FOR TEN MEGS.
┴ROUND TWICE THE PRICE OF A 1581...  ╔ THINK ╔ COULD SELL A FEW.  :)
  ┴S A SIDE NOTE, THE INTERFACE WOULD PULL IT'S POWER FROM THE ╨╙, NOT THE 64,
AND ╔ WOULD ALSO MAKE THE ╥┼╒ GET IT'S POWER THERE, SO USING A 2 MEG ONE ON A
64 WOULDN'T OVERLOAD THE POWER SUPPLY..
  ╫HADDA YA THINK?

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64 (┼VAL)
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═ESSAGE #170 "├┬═" (╥EAD: 3)
─ATE: 06 ╬OV 90 21:01:00
╞ROM: ╟ARY ╓ANGELDER
  ╘O: ╔F ┘OU ├AN ═AKE ╘HIS
╙UBJ: ╥E: ╫╚╧ ╫╧╒╠─ ╠╔╦┼ ┴ ╚┴╥─ ─╥╔╓┼??

╔F YOU CAN MAKE A RELIABLE ╚─ INTERFACE IN THE PRICE RANGE YOU MENTIONED THEN
╔ WOULD BE INTERESTED IN IT. ╘HE INTERFACE YOU DESCRIBED WOULD BE MAJOR BOOST
TO US DEDICATED ├┬═ 8 BITTERS IN THE AREA OF MASS STORAGE. ( MUCH LIKE THE
╙WIFTLINK WAS A BOOST TO TELECOMUNICATIONS ) ╔ GUESS THIS GOES TO SHOW, OLD
├┬═'S DON'T DIE - THEY JUST GET BETTER.

--- ╧PUS-├┬├╙ 1.14
 * ╧RIGIN: ─OCTORS ╔NN *╪╨╥┼╙╙*╚╙╘*  ╨GH, ╨┴ (412-881-7757) (1:129/53.0)



═ESSAGE #226 "├┬═" (╥EAD: 5)
─ATE: 07 ╬OV 90 14:54:00
╞ROM: ┴LAN ╦ING
  ╘O: ┴NTHONY ═ARSH
╙UBJ: ╥E: 2 ═┼╟ 1750

  ╔F YOU CAN STILL SNAG THAT ╙EGATE, PLEASE DO... :)  ╔ COULD CERTAINLY USE
SOME EQUIPMENT FOR TESTING, ALTHOUGH ╔ AM SELLING MY ┴MIGA SYSTEM FOR $800 TO
GET SOME CAPITAL..  ╔ JUST THINK IT COULD BE WORTH IT..

  ╔ COULD SELL IT FOR AROUND $150 (MAYBE $175, AS ╔ SAID, ALL THEY SHOULD HAVE
TO GET IS THEIR OWN ═╞═ HARD DRIVE.  OBVIOUSLY, IF SOMEONE ALREADY HAD THE
POWER SUPPLY OR CONTROLLER CARD ETC, ╔ WOULD SUBTRACT THEIR COST AND SEND
JUST WHAT THEY NEED...
  ╫HOOPS.. )
  ┴LSO, IF INTEREST AND QUANTITY DICTATE, IF INTEREST AND QUANTITY DICTATE, ╔
WILL OFFER HARD DRIVES AT COST AS CHEAP AS ╔ CAN GET THEM.  ╔F ╔ HAD THE
BUCKS RIGHT NOW, ╔ COULD GET ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO 65 20 MEG ├═╔ DRIVES, ╞ULL
╚EIGHT, FOR $69 EACH.  ╔'M ONLY GOING TO MAKE MONEY FROM THE INTERFACES.  ╔'M
GOING TO PRICE THEM ALONG WITH THE POWER SUPPLY AND CONTROLLER AT ┼╪┴├╘╠┘
$100 OVER MY COST.  ╘HAT IS NOT INCLUDING MY TIME AND THE TIME SPENT ON THE
─╧╙.  ╧NCE ╔ GET GOING IN QUANTITY,  ╔ WILL LOWER MY PRICE IF THE COST TO ME
GOES DOWN, AND ╔ THINK THE PRICE WILL BE MORE THAN FAIR REGARDLESS.
├ERTAINLY NOTHING LIKE THE PROFIT MADE ├═─ AND THE ╠╘ ╦ERNAL. ╞OR AROUND
TWICE THE PRICE OF A NEW 1581, GET A 20 MEG HARD DRIVE SYSTEM.

 ╔'M GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT ROUGHLY COMPATABLE WITH THE 1581, SO IT SHOULDN'T
BE TOO BAD.  ┴LSO, ╔'M GOING TO SEND ONE TO ┬╙╫ AS SOON AS ╔ GET IT GOING SO
THEY CAN WORK UP A DRIVER FOR IT...
  ╘HAT'S NOT EVEN MENTIONING THE ╥┼╒ STUFF..

  ╔ WILL HAVE TO DO IT JUST FOR THE 64 FIRST, BUT ANYONE WITH A 128 WHO GETS
IT BEFOREHAND WILL GET THE 128 ROMS AS SOON AS ╔ CAN GET THEM WORKED UP...
  ╔T MAY NOT BE AS POWERFUL AS THE ╠T ╦ERNAL DOS, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE
PRETTY WELL COMPATABLE, AND WON'T COST LIKE ONE EITHER!
  ╠ATER.

--- ╤UICK┬┬╙ 2.64 (┼VAL)
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═ESSAGE #243 "├┬═" (╥EAD: 4)
─ATE: 07 ╬OV 90 14:27:22
╞ROM: ┴LAN ╦ING
  ╘O: ╩USTIN ╨INNIX
╙UBJ: ╥E: ╫╚╧ ╫╧╒╠─ ╠╔╦┼ ┴ ╚┴╥─ ─╥╔╓┼??

  ╫ANT TO DO SOME BETA-TESTING?  ╧NCE ╔ GET MY TEST BED RUNNING (AROUND TWO
WEEKS..)  ╔'M GONNA CHARGE ╩╒╙╘ FOR PARTS FOR A COUPLE OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE
TO LET THEM TEST THE SOFTWARE..  ╙HOULDN'T BE BUT AROUND $150 OR SO ╘╧╘┴╠.
┬UT THAT WON'T BE UNTIL ╔ GET AT LEAST THE RUDIMENTARY LEVEL RUNNING (╔┼
╙IMPLE ╠OADS AND ╙AVES..).  ╘HEN LET THEM TEST THAT WHILE ╔'M COMPLETING THE
REST OF THE ─╧╙..  ╙HOULDN'T TAKE MORE THAN TWO MONTHS TO GET A PRETTY
COMPLETE ─╧╙ FOR THE ─RIVE AND THE ╥┼╒ UP AND RUNNING...

--- ╘┬┬╙ V2.1/╬═
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